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Bruce Wolman's avatar

Sorry Aaron, but you don't get it this time. Even if Trump is a sociopath and the majority of Republican Senators are, that doesn't mean the entire GOP caucus is immune to political pressure for cutting SNAP or decreasing the ACA subsidies. Trump already cut SNAP and Medicaid for a large number of people and fired FED workers under the CR and the Budget Bill. Did Democrats compromising help those people or just postpone some of the cuts?

Trump will certainly try to do it again, unless he or the GOP feel the political pressure. Tuesday's election results were certainly pressure. Neither party can be trusted to fulfill any deal at this point, and there is no guarantee Trump will sign this compromise.

The calculus was not between the interests of SNAP and ACA recipients. It was between the interests of Federal Workers in states with large numbers of Federal Workers (VA, NH, ME) versus states with voters more dependent on SNAP and ACA subsidies. It was a straight political cost-benefit analysis for those Senators, not a moral choice in any way.

Neither Aaron nor the collaborating Democratic Senators know the GOP threshold for unpopularity. Hence, immediate harm versus harm some weeks away is not a convincing parameter by which to decide a strategy.

Maybe the Democratic Senators received behind the scene promises that enough GOP Senators will pass a compromise bill in December. That would be the rational GOP play, and it would be rational for Trump to go along, since he can claim responsibility for the result and that he tamed the Democrats.

We will see.

What is certain is that even after winning big on Tuesday, the Democrats have no strategic plan to confront Trumpism or any consensus on how to address the shortcomings in their own leadership and policies.

Bruce Wolman's avatar

View Virginia's Governor-elect Abigail Spanberger on Face The Nation yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKDhP53kTPc

Nancy's avatar

The only solution is getting rid of the “insurance companies “ and going to a Medicare/single payer type of insurance. But the dems and republicans are simply whores and pimps for their donors. This is simply a stupid argument that goes on and on. Goodbye. This country is so sick it is on life support…

D33srs's avatar

Aaron the republicans don’t “still” own the healthcare subsidies because centrist democrats collaborated with them. That’s the whole point. Make it a partisan issue and hold the line. Or cave and share in the blame for this abysmal policy outcome.

David Cooper's avatar

There were only 3 relevant radio stations in 1976 (KSJO , KOME and KMEL) when Joe Walsh had that long rambling "Rocky Mountain Way" song, which they'd play 10 times a day. There was no getting away from it. The radio or the 8-Track were the only options, and all we had for tapes were Blue Oyster Cult, Double Live Gonzo, Cat Scratch Fever, Peter Frampton and Foghat.

hierochloe's avatar

I get the point about bending to feed people, but it seems naive af to think these senators took a knee to insert the dong so that some folks could eat.