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JD Vance Just Called Out Trump on Joe Rogan
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JD Vance Just Called Out Trump on Joe Rogan

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Vice President JD Vance went on Joe Rogan’s podcast this week and surprisingly took some big shots at an unnamed target who sounds suspiciously close to President Donald Trump, who has bragged about taking large sums of money from Israel donors like Miriam Adelson, got manipulated by Israelis like Benjamin Netanyahu, and continued to bomb Iran amidst the peace deal his administration worked to reach.

See if JD’s comments sound familiar:

I don’t actually mind that certain elements of the Israeli government want to criticize the [Iran] deal or have disagreements about the deal. I don’t even mind an effort to try to influence [us]. Foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time.

What bothers me is when American leadership allows that influence to affect their judgment and to affect what they are advocating for. That’s what really bothers me.

When I open up the pages of Time magazine and I see that there’s a literal foreign influence campaign being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing… my response to that is, well, ‘go to hell.’

After telling (maybe) President Trump to go to hell, Vance continues on, calling out (maybe) President Trump, who most recently bombed a children’s hospital in Iran, for using the military over diplomacy.

There are people who are super hawkish in the American system who have attacked the deal and frankly in some ways have tried to derail the deal. What I always say to those people is: ‘What is your proposal? What is your actual argument?’

But the people who are like, ‘You cannot negotiate with the Iranians,’ the reason why that’s fundamentally idiotic is because so long as you have some person who’s willing to fire off a few cheap drones, you’re going to have some ship captains who say, ‘No, no, no. We’re not willing to do this.’

So, we got to use all tools at our disposal. The military is one tool, but diplomacy is another tool. And I’m very frustrated by the Americans who are like, ‘You cannot negotiate with the Iranians.’

So what you’re saying, JD, is “President Trump is an idiot who can go to hell.”

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