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DogH2O's avatar

Hey, I have an idea, instead of a "drinking game", let's mastermind a "board game" where like your drinking game hedges on expected outcomes of public rhetoric and policy (i.e what politicians promise and what they deliver). Each person "chooses" a board token like in monopoly and in this case if a person chose the Biden Token, s/he would "own" all the successes and failures of the real Biden by either being rewarded or punished in the game. I extrapolated this idea to a virtual, public Vegas model where people could actually bet on their board token at scale across the US and IMO would lead to a total meltdown of our system as we know it. Masses of people would be calling BS on political rhetoric and winning HUGE on the outcomes. Imagine this! People who were Biden supporters (or whoever) would be losing their shirt over his failures while everyone else with a brain would be cashing in. In essence, what this means is now people would have to "own" the successes and failures of their game piece (a real person in real time) and I'd bet $1 you'd find public sentiment shifting in radical and dramatic ways that would crush the current political system. Walk it back and forward. Voting for public policy makes more sense and is more honest in the board game than it is currently. If someone makes this game, they'd get rich on it but my version would be first and is nearly complete in concept.

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DogH2O's avatar

You know how Safeway has their version of the Monopoly game at scale and fully in public view? Well, just replace that with the new version and you can see where this is headed.

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DogH2O's avatar

I think I'll call the board game "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is".

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DogH2O's avatar

This board game concept using real money, real people, real events is only viable in a "capitalist" system. It in fact would be using the same capitalist ethic as seen in Vegas (or Wall Street) but be the capitalist system's demise. Do the math, I think we have a winner here. LOL hahahaha I would be so vindicated and happy that this game would most probably lead to capitalism failing in total and a new system created that didn't do this. Then the people would not win real cash but only monopoly money.

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jlalbrecht's avatar

Cool idea but I think you'll get three responses:

1) Smart Biden supporters will ignore you (not play), because they know he won't deliver;

2) Not so smart / more corrupt Biden supporters will say this is all a Russian plot and either not play or claim any money made should be expropriated and sent to support Ukraine; or

3) Even less smart (sadly ,there is no lower limit) Biden supporters will not pay when they lose, claiming they didn't lose because, "something, something, [move the goalposts], [shift blame], something."

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William Yonan's avatar

Maybe this year McCarthy will tear up Biden’s transcript channeling Pelosi

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Barbara's avatar

Two shots when he marches out his gratuitous gun violence victim so he can lie about banning assault weapons while glorifying the violence of war.

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William Yonan's avatar

More and more pathetic spectacle in place of reason

At this point does any member of federal government have any idea about the state of the union for average Americans?

They are hermetically sealed off from everyone except donors

They can vote themselves raises

Why worry about health care? Congress has the most spectacular platinum plated health insurance in the world

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Maybe Kamala will take over. She went to Westmount High School in Montreal where she grew up . It is the reason she speaks with a Jewish Montreal accent. She grew up in Montreal's Jewish community where her Mother was a high ranking member of Montreal's Jewish intelligentsia. Both of Kamala's parents were public intellectuals not working class or millionaires but in Montreal McGill is Harvard and Aaron Mate's Concordia is aspiring to middle class.

Leonard Cohen went to Westmount High School which has 150 years of elite education credentials in economics, science, literature and public policy.

The reason for my response is Westmount High School's motto is

Dux Vitae Ratio: Reason is the guide to life.

It is still an elite educational institution which you will never experience on your media because Westmount High School students know real history and Kamala Harris would be just an ordinary good student. She would no doubt take one of its many advanced programs unsuitable for Florida , Texas and probably California and New York.

https://westmount.emsb.qc.ca/whs

Kamala experienced a real democratic evolution as Quebec went from oligarchy to secular humanist liberal democracy.

Today Quebec is a matriarchy and it is good and the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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e.pierce's avatar

VOMITING STUPID, CHEAP, MEANINGLESS SLOGANS, as usual. TROLL.

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William Yonan's avatar

Or continue to explain why the second amendment needs to be repealed

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Barbara's avatar

Would that be on any lawmaker’s radar? I think not.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I don't drink can I take a puff?

Biden is your President not mine. The State of the Union is up to Americans not Biden and Who Jupiter seeks to destroy he first makes mad.

I was born 75 years ago and Quebec was poor, illiterate and impoverished. America was the promised land.

The State of the union is precarious and Biden has nothing to say or it is time for counting and the dealing is done.

America needs to join the 21st century or blow up the planet but that was 1960s.

We will go out with a whimper not a bang.

Today Quebec is prosperous and optimistic and preparing for the future. The question is will America allows us a future. We are committed to no fossil fuels by 2030.

We don't know if America will permit 2030.

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Maggie's avatar

Surely you jest about Canada leading anything but gun control. We watched the country topple on top of truckers who wanted nothing more than equality and a fair chance at earning a living. Curious, have their checking and saving accounts ever been reinstated ?

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e.pierce's avatar

"Moe" is an insane, (self-admittedly) drug addled, communist TROLL. ignore.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Wake up Maggie I think I have something to say to you.

Maggie I live in Truck town Canada next to a major international Highway. We had a little sendoff party for the dissident truckers. Our Truckers have guaranteed healthcare, education and welfare along with every other citizen. Our truckers don't need America's sympathies they are secure and relatively wealthy. Eighty five per cent of Quebec's truckers were content with Prime Minister Legault's giving the Injustice Seekers the Bum's Rush out of town.

The Tim Horton's is next door to the Truck stop. Stop by for coffee before spouting American and Canadian corporate nonsense.

The trucker's union supported both Trudeau and Legault

It is what Canadians and Quebecer's call democracy.

America is an oligarchy.

We actually believe in a living constitution not in the world in 1789.

Jefferson said you needed a new constitution every 19 years. Jefferson was a scientist and all science is the study of evolution.

Isaac Newton said it best: "We are standing on the shoulders of giants."

America is Bolshevik Canada is a full democracy.

The Federalists have fought liberal democracy since Madison stormed the Congress on behalf of the executive.

In a nation of truckers; 15% is a large number of useful idiots.

America's corporate media is cancer in the 21st century when people are afraid to go out lest they encounter their shadow.

Taibbi got our truckers wrong because in America the minority usually is oppressed and the majority is usually fascist. Canada is Ukraine and America is our Russia.

We are still on the road to democracy which America left when it elected Nixon.

Seek and ye shall find.

Stop being an injustice seeker. Canadian politics is very boring and the media knows it.

Ottawa has a million people and 99.9% wanted the Ontario Prime Minister to tell the Injustice Seekers to Fuck Right Off.

The Province runs the roads and the cities and America runs our border.

Why don't you read the United States of Lyncherdom by Mark Twain

http://www.csun.edu/~twd61312/498%202018/The%20United%20States%20of%20Lyncherdom.pdf

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jlalbrecht's avatar

"Our truckers don't need America's sympathies they are secure and relatively wealthy" unless they take part in a protest the government doesn't like, then they have no bank accounts or income possible.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

jlalbrecht,

I am sorry if the truth hurts but unless Americans begin to understand that they are no longer number one except in stupidity and mayhem we're all going town the tube.

Canada's truckers are not in need of go fund me's.

I do live in a small town and I do know for real truckers.

This isn't a competition. It is not my fault America is insane.

In Canada if you drive truck even for Amazon your income is middle class and if you own a rig you are financially secure.

The rest is up to the individual and truckers are people.

Canada is one of 21 Full Democracies on the planet and America is an Empire in decline. It is not a full democracy and your natives are restless because the myth and reality don't seemingly sync.

Now why don't you find yourself a Rhine Maiden and reads some reality books about demographics.

I live on the border and I spent almost twenty years living in America and I love Americans but they are Americans.

They are who they are and they know what they are told to know and most of it is pure American propaganda.

You must know someone who knows what life is like in the Full democracies on this planet.

America only claims to be number one. It isn't even number two. In freedom, quality of life, education, health, happiness or longevity. America is a Bully and if Cuba wasn't under constant American sanctions it would be richer than Florida.

America is number one all alright. I can smell the urine it is time to flush the toilet.

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jlalbrecht's avatar

Moe, I never claimed the US was number one. I live happily in Europe for several decades and have watched the change in my birth country pretty starkly. I visit 1-3 (sometimes more for business) times a year, so I see the changes more easily than someone who is immersed in the slow constant changes.

I don't know if I'll ever return to the US. I'm pretty well off, so I'd probably be fine in the dog-eat-dog US. Who knows. I'm very happy in Austria.

Sounds like you're happy in Canada. I've been to Canada several times. Beautiful country. I have had many great Canadian work colleagues. Nice folk.

None of that or anything you wrote changes the fact that the Canadian government took steps against the trucker protestors that were dys-fucking-topian.

You can write another short essay on the wonders of the North American Beaver, the Maple Leaf, Wayne Gretzky (the friggin' GOAT!), or the Mounties. It won't change what was done to those trucker protestors.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Those truckers were protected from an angry mobs that given half a chance would assault and brutalize them. Eighty five per cent of our truckers were embarrassed by the association with these Injustice seekers.

Our closest friend grew up in Hungary and escaped after High School. His brother lives in Vienna and his mother and father stayed in Budapest. I understand life in Austria is rather secure. Our extended family stretches from Southern Chile to Northern Canada.

You understand what I am saying. All our children and grandchildren speak more than one language and Austro-Hungary was not a great place for non Hapsburgs.

I am a Jew, in Budapest we had a special place but Vienna was off limits.

I grew up in a Quebec ghetto. I am 75. Napoleon tore down the Ghetto walls but in Quebec Napoleon was a fiend according to the Church. Montreal is still tearing down its ghetto walls.

Obama was right and wrong about there only being the United States of Americans.

Voltaire said it best "Perception is real in its consequences."

My little rural town looks like the world. People from Austria come here to ski and come to our region to spend the summer. In fact the NYT says we are a place to visit in 2023.

Our provinces control our roads , bridges, highways and cities and The USofA controls our borders. Trudeau is only a coordinator. We aren't even Ukraine as we cannot even defend our borders and we don't want to become another part of the kleptocratic oligarchy.

Other than keeping the trucks on exclusive dedicated highways it is hard imagine reasonable truckers being Injustice Seekers. Strong unions, secure safe communities, healthcare, education, and welfare for all and Tim Horton's coffee and doughnuts and actually good fast food everywhere. We have a free and independent press and we the people are the top of the an inverted pyramid. In Quebec we are a secular humanist liberal democracy and our constitution is a living document that evolves as we evolve. Arms are weapons of war designed for militias.

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

In Canada we suppress the minority to protect the majority in America's Bolshevik Republic you repress the majority to protect the minority.

The meaning of Bolshevik is the minority. It has nothing to do with Socialism, Capitalism it is about where the power lies. Canada is a country striving for justice. If the law is unjust the law is discarded. You chose the rule of Sophistry.

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e.pierce's avatar

Blithering, blubbering idiot. TROLL. Drug addled communist buffoon.

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William Yonan's avatar

If you’re not an American citizen why would you torture yourself watching the SOTO

The SOTO is Washington DC’s annual awards show

It needs singing, choreography, and more jokes in the monologue while the President opens the envelopes to announce who the winning heroes are in the audience

More and more the goings on in DC defy parody

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Bill,

It is because I am not paranoid. I know the greatest threat to my grandchildren and my planet. The world watches the SOTU. It will be the lead story tomorrow and next Monday morning.

Americans don't care about politics because they don't care about the future.

Yours is a nation of Peter Pans

If you don't grow up there will be no future.

It isn't just because I collect US Social Security; my US Medicare is never used.

I care about your citizens future wellbeing.

I was taught No man is an Island in school. It concludes it tolls for me.

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William Yonan's avatar

Quote Gore Vidal “the United States of Amnesia”

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todd smith's avatar

Paraphrase of a Mr Vidal quote: "America has only One Party with Two Right Wings." Re-reading Vidal's "pamphlet" Dreaming War at the moment, highly recommended...

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I remember when Vidal was a threat not Buckley.

Buckley Sr was a proud to call himself a Franco Fascist. The National Review supported Apartheid to the very end. I have no amnesia.

I remember when Vermont was the reddest state in the union and rather backwards but that was before Ben and Jerry, Bernie and Paul Newman.

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William Yonan's avatar

You’re Canadian. Of course you don’t have amnesia

You probably read books too

A non-existent behavior here in the USA

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

Right now I am trying to promote Jefferson's Bible. Jefferson was a Deist and believed in evolution and didn't believe a deity interfered in the affairs of men. He bred plants and understood evolution. Jefferson went to the College of William and Mary. Virginia was democracy in1689 and Jefferson said democracy requires evolution.

Jefferson believed America would need a new constitution every 19 years.

Federalists believed just as Orwell's Stalin believed some are more equal than others.

That is the American divide this was written before he died 1950 by George Orwell.

Nationalism

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/

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e.pierce's avatar

"Moe" is an insane TROLL. What he watches, does or says is completely irrelevant.

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e.pierce's avatar

Blithering lunatic. Nobody cares about a drug addled, insane Canadian communist TROLL.

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William Yonan's avatar

Took me a while to reach the same conclusion

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Barbara's avatar

It's too gross to think about bike-shorts wearing politicians.

As for the drinking game - 1) every time Kamala does her cackle, 2) when some poor sap imported to the balcony is called out to touch the heart of Americans, 3) when someone, other than Biden, is found asleep at the wheel, 4) the words better off, progress, and other inflation-avoiding hyperbole is used by Biden to tell us how well off we are. Have an IPA on me when Biden fails to mention removing the deadly, cruel, sanctions on Syria.

One of the regional newspapers where I live always has a poll today's was Will you watch SOTU tonight? This is a dueling area - woke Dems and those horrible others - 82% said NO. Go Joe!

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William Yonan's avatar

When and who started the bizarre, now de rigeur, practice of planting these audience award winning heroes into the speech anyway?

Who first did that? And how can we make it stop??!

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William Yonan's avatar

Politicians not fully clothed is a really disgusting image. Yuck!

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William Yonan's avatar

LOL

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William Yonan's avatar

The constitution does not need to be shredded

It already been archived and replaced with The Patriot Act

The Patriot Act is now the governing document/law of the land

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

The constitution if interpreted as it was intended was vile and an abomination. It spelled the end of the century of democracy that began in 1689 with the reigns of William and Mary.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Toleration-Act-Great-Britain-1689

When Washington took office the first thing the Federalist did was attack congress

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/congress-embarrassing-start-and-how-madison-kicked-it-gear-180963079/

In a real liberal democracy evolution trumps the rule of law.

America is insane.

Slavery is no freedom.

Fred C Koch was a Stalinist and Kansas was the first right to work state.

Teach your children history. Fred C Koch co-founded the John Birch Society.

Or as Orwell's Stalin said: "Some are more equal than others."

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e.pierce's avatar

VOMITING STUPID, CHEAP, MEANINGLESS SLOGANS, as usual. TROLL.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

In summary -- fascism rules in the US and US media.

Twitter Files alone is 20X bigger than Watergate but a total silence in state-controlled media.

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Richie from the Bronx's avatar

Joe McCarty's ghost must be rejoicing at the level of censorship.

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todd smith's avatar

In no particular order, a shot or puff anytime Biden says: "Malarkey; Trump; Ukraine (curious if he mentions Ukraine at all, for a number of reasons); invents a new word while trying to say or read a familiar one; declares that we are suspending the Caesar Sanctions on Syria due to the horrific Earthquake there; refers to Juan Guaido as president of Venezuela; China; I am a malfunctioning clone; make no mistake; resolve; and Where are my pants? Has anyone seen my pants?" Looks like the Grammys stole Biden's Satanic thunder. What drugs will he be on? Well, as they say: "Let the Bidenisms Begin!" Oh, and "More Rat Power" is a great Metal band name...

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

I am not an American. Yesterday's Economic Update talked about China which many understand is so much BS. It also talked about the War of 1812 where America and Madison attempted to take over Canada. Richard Wolff who I trust got 1812-1814 all wrong but he understood China had no use in spying on 20th century American lunacy and a pentagon enmeshed in 20th century technology and 1st century Roman psychology..

China is advanced technology . They wouldn't spy on the Pentagon while Elon Musk is flying to Mars and the Pentagon is still figuring out Viet Nam.

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e.pierce's avatar

Blithering, blubbering idiot. TROLL

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William Yonan's avatar

Chug a beer every time the word “China” is spoken

Ditto for the word “Russia”

That way one will spend significant time in their respective bathrooms

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malty mcfry's avatar

great but let’s shrink it to “Chinese Communist Party / CCP” or “PUtin” with that extra emphasis on Pu. I think it’ll still get plenty of chugs, and these are classic dog whistles lol

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Melodie's avatar

I would be lying if I said I wasn’t excited for this 🤣 drink every time Biden mentions Boosters

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nobunny's avatar

I don't think my liver could survive the eve. I'm also not as young as I once was and waking up for work wouldn't be pleasant.

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William Yonan's avatar

Completely off topic but has anyone noticed what a perfect twin Mayor Pete is for Alfred E. Newman of MAD Magazine?

Air traffic shut down? What? Me worry?

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William Yonan's avatar

Let’s just ask who in Congress looks dumbest period with or without bike shorts

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Moe Strausberg's avatar

William

In case you forgot.

There is the Chicolini defense.

Don't let appearances

fool you. Just because he talks like an idiot

and looks like an idiot doesn't mean..

From Duck Soup 1933

Yesterday today and tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEabC9WzHck&t=73s

I been watching it on American television since Hatefest 1964 in San Frisco when the John Birch Society, the Klan, and the White Citizens councils took over the GOP in San Francisco.

https://mashable.com/feature/1964-gop-convention#PnF5L1lSmkqL

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e.pierce's avatar

VOMITING STUPID, CHEAP, MEANINGLESS SLOGANS, as usual. TROLL.

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Ally's avatar

Why can’t i get video from the substack app. When there were two shows, one short for non subscribers and 1 longer for subscribers,I could play it with video. What am I doing wrong?

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e.pierce's avatar

https://compactmag.com/article/how-everything-became-fascism

"To get at the underlying reason for this fixation, Kuklick speculates that Americans are somehow unable to deal with the reality that they live in a huge, complex, imperfectly democratic country that has evolved (or strayed) far from the very delimited constitutional system with which the Founders had sought to discipline majoritarian representation. This is probably too subtle. More likely the reason for the mindless ubiquity of the f-word is simply that the era of World War II focused a polemical “fascism” as the only major destructive political alternative to emerge from within Western civilization itself since the 18th century, while association with Hitlerism and the Holocaust lent it a uniquely demonic connotation. All this serves as a mental and political smokescreen. The “really existing” form of Western proto-authoritarianism doesn’t stem from small, scantily armed “militias” and disoriented “insurrectionists,” nor from a chaotic demagogue such as Trump, but

[->] from the state apparatus already functioning.

Government by executive decree rather than elected legislatures, politicized intelligence services, and a biased, coercive judiciary are its key constituents. In advanced democracies, such things function more from the inside out than from the outside in."

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todd smith's avatar

True story, especially "American lunacy." The Pentagram, or Death Star, is also still trying to figure out Iraq by playing war games in Ukraine. Unfortunately, the Ukrainians and some Russians are the pawns in this "War Game."

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