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I'm sorry I couldn't get through it, it's just too painful to watch. Those people have absolutely nothing to offer anyone, there's no reason to interview them except as part of a war crime investigation.

I'll still be forever grateful to Jon and Stephen for helping to build in me the constructive scepticism that I now have.

It's so sad, feels like they are lost to us since Trump. Honestly one of the biggest disappointments of this whole period.

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Nov 24, 2022·edited Nov 24, 2022

I am struggling to select my favourite `argument` as that interview

contains many `treasures`; some of which lead to shock, serious

irritation, and revulsion, all at the same time.

However, if pressed to select one, this is my favourite

moment featuring `Condi` at around 30:55 into the interview:

> Condi: Well, actually, if you look at the record. Democratic countries

> *don't* invade their neighbours. Democratic countries *don't* harbor

> terrorists. Democratic countries *don't* use weapons of mass

> destruction…

…ergo, if you take this to its natural conclusion then the US

is *not* a democratic country. Oh, hold on a second! I forgot!

US exceptionalism! Of course! My bad! This counts for everyone

else *except* the US and its friends…

I am not surprised that Condi utters such nonsense, what really amazes

me is how they manage to make these statements with a serious and

straight face. The double standard couldn't be more appaling. But

there they are, looking all serious, nodding at each other, completing

each others sentences…simply revulsive!

…and how does our acclaimed Jon Stewart respond to this nonsense?

> Jon: I understand what you're saying [Condi].…

Wow! How critical!

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Listening to Aaron on Stewart (Amen), I thought of this observation about Mark Twain from H.L. Mencken, which unless I hear more from Stewart on the road more travelled that he appears to have taken after doing so much for so many, I will believe applies to him nearly perfectly:

“He shared the national horror of the unorthodox. His own speculations always half appalled him. He was not only afraid to utter what he believed; he was even a bit timorous about believing what he believed.

The weakness takes a good deal from his stature. It leaves him radiating a subtle flavor of the second-rate. With more courage, he would have gone a great deal further, and left a far deeper mark upon the intellectual history of his time . . .

[W]hen entering these regions of his true faith, he yielded to a puerile timidity—when he sacrificed his conscience and his self-respect to the idiotic popularity that so often more than half dishonored him—then he not only did a cruel disservice to his own permanent fame, but inflicted genuine damage upon the national literature. He was greater than all the others because he was more American, but in this one way, at least, he was less than them for the same reason.”

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Breaking Points gave a sycophantic review of Stewart, saying he essentially schooled the monsters HRC and Rice. Krystal has fallen so far down the rabbit hole of standard liberal interpretations of everything, it makes me regret being a founding contributor. (insert vulgar and wildly inappropriate statement about Kyle Kulinski here. lol)

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It's funny. I never watched The Daily Show, but seeing him on the Apple TV thing I just do not like his style at all.

I mean he's fine on some and excellent on some issues but this war machine shit this year is just too much. This is slaughter the defenseless in the "third world". This is horrifying bulling of Russia.

Ritter tells us in detail here what is REALLY going on:

https://youtu.be/JCR-Phtgx0k

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Hillary Clinton could ask John Stewart, "Are we going to end Antisemitism if Jews stop giving awards to Nazis at Disney World?"

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I stopped watching the Daily Show when the unfunny and insufferable Samantha Bee did a whole segment ridiculing Occupy Wall Street. Not wasting my time with shitlibs.

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Stewart won't confront either of these war criminals because he's AFRAID of them. They're both marinated in radical evil, and he's scared of what they might do to him if he actually poses any meaningful questions about Iraq, Libya, or any of their imperial projects. He's become like Bono, always sucking up to power because otherwise it might bite him in the ass.

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It’s painful to watch. Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice are all about promoting the war hawks’ view of the world with zero self examination. John Stewart is going way too easy on them.

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Why did Jon have such a lame interview? Maybe he thought that he would look stately? History already has shown Rice and Clinton to be revisionists, so maybe it doesn't matter that they spew their lies or delusions, depending on whether they actually believe what they say or not, or maybe it helps prove their revisionist views. History needs such honesty from such corrupt and morally bankrupt people.

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So this is the one that put over the edge. I’ve officially become a Useful Idiot. And congratulations to Aaron Mate for his rendition of IceT’s Thanksgiving Special that got me there. Keep up the good work Aaron!

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On the bright side, if there could be said to be one in this context, Jon Stewart provided a platform, presumably "hip," for these two war criminal "gray ladies" to lay out their lies on camera, for the entire World to see--and, yes, the World is watching. Their "testimony" during this interview could lead to their convictions, based upon their own statements. I am not sure what Jon Stewart's motivations were; however, if he were attempting to set HRC and Condi up for a War Crimes Tribunal, he could not have played the better naif. That's a generous interpretation, but things are not always what they seem.

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Aaron, I'm curious about reports I heard regarding US helicopters starting fires in mature wheat fields in Iraq. If this is true its too despicable for words. Do you know if its been confirmed?

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Ugh! Very painful. They are all turkeys. The only saving grace is the notification that there will be a part II of the Norman Finkelstein interview. Well worth the price of admission.

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Can the 'Thursday Throwdown' be pushed out to the podcast platforms aswell? My Useful Idiots listening is while riding around on a farm motorbike on the wild western shores here in New Zealand... :-) I simply can't get enough of Katie n Aaron so I need every minute I can get.

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Next topic : Should IPO Bond offerings for Real Estate housing development for the market aimed at the top 1/3 of household income , also be required to expand the offering by 33 1/3 % to build affordable housing for the bottom 1/3 of household income ? IS therr

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